sffwrtcht: Our goal is to talk w/ writers, editors, & others abt the craft of writing, specifically related to writing speculative fiction. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:00:18 +0000 2011)
sffwrtcht: Our format is round table discussion. Please restrict ?s to writing craft, business of writing & the specific works of the guest #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:00:39 +0000 2011)
unknownbinaries: @shadowflame1974 Too dry for the haze today, but yes. My desk, keyboard, dresser, anything near an open window is gritty. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:00:49 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: RT @sffwrtcht: Our goal is to talk w/ writers, editors, & others abt the craft of writing, specifically related to writing speculative f ... (Thu Apr 14 01:00:52 +0000 2011)
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taylorkv: RT @SaybrookSage: Tonight on #sffwrtcht @shadowflame1974 intvs publisher/editor/writer @inkedhistorian of Dagan Books on Cthulhurotica & ... (Thu Apr 14 01:01:20 +0000 2011)
sffwrtcht: #sffwrtcht 4/20 James Enge 4/27 Paul S. Kemp 5/04 Lou Anders 5/11 SF Signal John DeNardo 5/18 Nnedi Okorafor 5/25 Chris Fletcher, MBraneSF (Thu Apr 14 01:01:30 +0000 2011)
sffwrtcht: Tonight's guest is @inkedhistorian from @DaganBooks and some of the authors/artists from Cthulhurotica and In Situ #Sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:01:45 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: RT @sffwrtcht: #sffwrtcht 4/20 James Enge 4/27 Paul S. Kemp 5/04 Lou Anders 5/11 SF Signal John DeNardo 5/18 Nnedi Okorafor 5/25 Chris F ... (Thu Apr 14 01:02:14 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @unknownbinaries You do! You provided both art and writing to @Cthulhurotica - and your story is till one of my favorites. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:03:17 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @sffwrtcht I don't think I had a choice. I've been in love with words since I learned that they meant the same thing every time. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:03:58 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @sffwrtcht I wrote the first story that I can remember when I was four, and I could read it again and again. That was magic. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:05:22 +0000 2011)
taylorkv: That's what I'm talking about. Ha! “@inkedhistorian: @sffwrtcht I don't think I had a choice. #sffwrtcht†(Thu Apr 14 01:05:41 +0000 2011)
kaolinfire: @inkedhistorian how did you feel when the second stage kicked in and you realized words could be twisted to mean anything? :) #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:05:57 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @sffwrtcht a combination of two things that are pretty obvious about me - I talk about (book) history, and I'm covered in ink. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:06:01 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @kaolinfire I can't say that I got to that "stage". I don't think they can mean anything. I think they mean very specific things. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:06:53 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Doesn't it? You learn words that describe the world, and use them to tell someone else what you see. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:08:05 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 True. One of the hardest parts of writing is getting the reader to feel what you felt. Practice helps there. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:10:09 +0000 2011)
kaolinfire: @inkedhistorian If you could only pick one ~ character, plot, or setting? [I know, I know, ALL, but ... just one?] #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:10:29 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @kaolinfire Character. Though, without plot, it's just a moment in time, and without setting we have no sense of the world. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:11:30 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: RT @inkedhistorian: @taylorkv An editor is supposed to b the person who sees your vision and strips off bits that get in the way #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:11:48 +0000 2011)
taylorkv: This. “@inkedhistorian: An editor is supposed to be the person who sees your vision, and strips off the bits that get in the way #sffwrtcht†(Thu Apr 14 01:12:00 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @sffwrtcht depends on what you mean. Every story has a history, it exists in a world which has more going on than you see #sffwrtchat (Thu Apr 14 01:15:44 +0000 2011)
SimonCLarter: RT @taylorkv: This. “@inkedhistorian: An editor is supposed to be the person who sees your vision, and strips off the bits that get in t ... (Thu Apr 14 01:16:09 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: RT@inkedhistorian depends on what you mean. Every story has a history, it exists in a world which has more going on than you see #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:18:51 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: RT @Inkedhistorian There was a conversation going round Twitter about the future of Weird Erotica and I basically raised my hand #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:23:24 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: I said, "Guys! I have a great idea for Lovecraftian Erotica!" and everyone else kind of backed away slowly RT @Inkedhistorian #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:24:26 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I had no idea. I always thought a publishing company was something you started when you were famous #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:25:25 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 But as time went on and I researched more about publishers, looking for a home for @Cthulhurotica... #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:26:02 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I realized I could do it, if I wanted to spend all my money and time on it forever and ever #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:26:38 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @unknownbinaries I have trunked novels I may never finish but I can tell you what temp it is in which season. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:27:14 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @unknownbinaries I think the trick is to write as you worldbuild, and fix your early mistakes in editing. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:27:35 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 It's become bigger than I ever thought it would be, and I love every bit of it, even the mistakes #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:28:02 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I think I got as close as I could with the material. I don't think we made the definitive book, and #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:28:48 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I wanted a book of stories that felt real to me. As if Innsmouth could be a real place. Not just a - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:29:46 +0000 2011)
David_JWest: @inkedhistorian I'll think about that one just becuase it would be such a challenge for me to get beyond the initial yuck factor #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:30:58 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I will never forget my first submission, who sent it early, didn't follow guidelines, and followed #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:31:01 +0000 2011)
Wyld_Dandelyon: RT @inkedhistorian: @unknownbinaries I think the trick is to write as you worldbuild, and fix your early mistakes in editing. #sffwrtcha ... (Thu Apr 14 01:31:13 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @David_JWest Part of the point of @Cthulhurotica was the explore the idea that monsters did not have to equal "yuck" #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:32:01 +0000 2011)
BostonBookBums: @inkedhistorian Could Cthulhurotica be a sort of "inspired by" unleashing of Lovecraft's works repressed sexuality #sffwrtcht #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:32:30 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Not yet. I'm not big enough to be noticeable to most other publishers yet. As me again next year :) #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:33:02 +0000 2011)
kyliu99: @inkedhistorian I thought Cthulhurotica proved that anything can be sexy in the hands of the right writer. #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:33:34 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @BostonBookBums There's been a lot said about Lovecraft's sexuality. I don't think his writing repressed it so much - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:33:38 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: @Inkedhistorian What kind of hurdles did you come upon in your first foray in publishing and how did you overcome them? #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:34:05 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @BostonBookBums ignored it. I can't help noticing passion and sex and lust and wanting- so I made sure it got back in #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:34:27 +0000 2011)
ShinkaiMaru5: @inkedhistorian, what - if any - recognition has Cthulhurotica received from the Lovecraft societies and clubs and whatnot? #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:34:46 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 My biggest hurdles were me and my personal life. I'm still learning to budget time, answer emails. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:35:23 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @ShinkaiMaru5 Ah, almost none. Yet. It's been inching slowing into the world, and the reviews we have are astounding. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:36:05 +0000 2011)
BostonBookBums: @inkedhistorian There was tremendous amounts of pent up "energy" & you said it...you made sure it got back in. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:36:14 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 It's a completely different kind of book. I admit I had to put it aside and just read/reread it - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:39:08 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 My background is actually in art history, and there's a lot of archeology there, in that we take - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:39:57 +0000 2011)
David_JWest: @inkedhistorian 1 week earlier and I have a writers conference I could sell it at - oh well, another in June #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:40:47 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @kyliu99 I spent a lot of time in college learning about the mistakes we've made with human artifacts on earth. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:41:04 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @kyliu99 I knew once alien tech got involved, we'd be clueless. There's a xenoarcheology movement, but it's still new #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:41:32 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I'm lucky in that I'm rarely surprised writers will envision a completely different story than me #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:42:23 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 There were, of course, pieces I rejected, but I looked for a range of ideas and got that #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:42:56 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Very. We have pieces set in the past, on Earth, in space, far in the future, or maybe just tomorrow #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:44:47 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 The themes they play with were need, loss, hope, discovery, greed, failure ... very human ideas. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:45:19 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Let's say I got enough to make a good book without having to stick anything in to fill up space. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:45:57 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Actually, no. But it's not the fault of IN SITU. Being a publishing company basically by myself - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:47:26 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 means that any problems in my life affect my business. I'm behind where I wanted to be, honestly. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:47:54 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: @Inkedhistorian For most publishers having good help is key to keeping things running smoothly. Who's on the @DaganBooks crew? #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:48:31 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Right now the staff is very slowly expanding. I have a great artist, @galendara, and an intern who - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:49:47 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I'm also working on future projects, and one of them is a web magazine of weird flash fiction #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:50:37 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 IN SITU, the magazine, a collection of novellas coming out late this year, more anthologies, and - #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:51:46 +0000 2011)
David_JWest: RT @shadowflame1974 What's next 4 @DaganBooks?@inkedhistorian one of them is a web magazine of weird flash fiction #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:53:14 +0000 2011)
Wyld_Dandelyon: @inkedhistorian Are you already accepting submissions for weird flash fiction? What is (or will be) the name of the magazine? #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:53:40 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 I hope to be working steadily instead of busily. I love making books, and love the people I've met #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:53:46 +0000 2011)
kaolinfire: @inkedhistorian in terms of weird, how do you see your upcoming magazine with relation to Weird Tales, or Everyday Weirdness? #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:54:00 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @Wyld_Dandelyon We're almost done with the planning on that, and then it will be paid, open submissions. Flash, btw. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:54:15 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @kaolinfire We want to do mainly flash. It's also about vision; I love classic weird, and New Weird like Mieville #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:55:19 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @kaolinfire But the other editor is more into indie presses, minimalist writing, and stories you have to work for. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:55:47 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Be prepared to not get famous, and to spend all your money on it. No one gets rich this way. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:56:24 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 But you can invest yourself into your work and make books you're proud of. Also, make YOUR books. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:56:50 +0000 2011)
shadowflame1974: RT @inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Don't try to be anyone else but yourself. Make books you want to read. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:57:35 +0000 2011)
taylorkv: RT @inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Don't try to be anyone else but yourself. Make books you want to read. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:58:03 +0000 2011)
inkedhistorian: @shadowflame1974 Sure! I see people trying to monetize everything, and lose readers. Have a dayjob, it frees you. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:58:10 +0000 2011)
kaolinfire: RT @inkedhistorian: @kaolinfire There always is. Keep writing, and you'll get closer to the writer you want to be. #sffwrtchat #sffwrtcht (Thu Apr 14 01:58:30 +0000 2011)